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I thought Judgment Day was pretty much of a joke, but you could understand my bias. Figures. Most things are closed down. ken rex mcelroy should have been dealt with by the law -instead the people took care of it , mcelroy will haunt skidmore for years to come. D. firing the 30.30, G. with the shotgun, but no mention of who fired the fatal shot with the .22. well he kept trying to talk to her & she told me to say something to him . as we paid for our items he followed us out the door & watched us get into our car & leave. As for the guy threatening you, he literally wrote like everyone else in his level of life. Been in some trouble. McElroy was a narcissistic despot. Who else would shoot a man in the back of the head as he sat in his truck? It would appear that you are using the connotation for coward, (i.e. The real question is: What would drive an entire town, filled with good people, to this desperate act? I saw the new restaurant on Facebook (called Goodtime Charlies of Skidmore, Mo. If the action against McElroy was spontaneous, wouldnt Clement expect to be held accountable for his actions? I watched a YouTube video of you, the lawyer and family members on the talk show. ; a timid or easily intimidated person. RELATED: 10 Of The Best Docuseries You Should Be Watching Now Each episode is around 40 minutes each and contains dramatic and intimate . Rod Rex you might be a narcissist but you certainly arent any man. The victim was simply entering a store and was accosted on his way out. Which now, has me asking a ton of additional questions, thoughts, etc. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. and to your footnote I was born close this town but have since move. But as long as you are armed, Im sure you feel like big man on campus. If anyone has information on Treena family I would love to know what happened to them all . Hi Harry, I would like to know which books you have on the case of Ken McElroy of Skidmore aka the town bully. I found Trena in an Obituary this year. Judging from the photos on FB, it appears that it may be where the Bowenkamps grocery store was located (judging from photos I saw in your book In Broad Daylight, and some YouTube videos that tourists have posted). EVERYONE has a breaking point. You know, there are a lot of places out there like Skidmore. Watch the new and 7th season of BuzzFeed Unsolved: True Crime! ive been to skidmore a few times , saw the movie in broad daylight. My uncle is Jeffery Dalsning and my mother is Lori Dalsning. yeah thats exactely how it happened , it wasnt planned . 1. i remember looking into the mirror & he was still standing in front of the store watching us as we went out of sight. Harry. Ten children, 15 year old wife with him in the truck. Thanks for taking the time to share our thoughts. It was sometimes difficult to distinguish myth from reality when it came to Ken Rex McElroy. Until then, mums the word. Granted, one needs to gloss over the statutory rape. The scum-bag lawyer and family members were genuinely angry that the killers had not been brought to justice. we just thought he was some creepy dude, then when the story broke about him & i saw pics i was literally shocked. Cmon people use your head. Thanks again for your time and have to admit I am fast becoming a Skidmore junkie. 1964: Ken meets another girlfriend named Alice Wood. But all I need is an address and I would gladly show up unarmed.pussy. And if this right was challenged? Tonight I rooted for the New England Patriots to beat the Chiefs! we all knew that the police would be coming , no one expected the fbi . They were stationed on Skidmore's major. so, so, sad. I would appreciate if you would please address a couple of questions. Love both your books on the subject, Harry. Btw, Even an expert at anything past reading distance would not be able to tell the difference between the two. skidmore will never be the same since the passing of mcelroy . My spatial sense is not the best. I later heard that there were suspicions that he had been driven off of the road. Years ago I met one of the gunmen, he was a polite gentleman. Del, a short man with a chip on his shoulder and a hot temper, wore a cowboy hat and drank heavily. And their is there. Perhaps you were drunk, too, I live in Independence, MO (after living in LA and Indiana) not far from SkidmoreO have read this book three times it is so goodthe entire story is one of the most intriguing incidents everYou did a GREAT job (And I am a screenwriter, myself (and actor/comedian)I hope you have other true story books, cause I want to read themAre you into screenwriting as well? Can I get in touch with you at your email? There were a few. I spent three years in Skidmore, and all I ever heard was that Clement was a mean drunk and had a bad temper. It is assumed that Del was one of the shooters but are you at liberty to name the other two? Also those who brag on the internet are usually the opposite. Thank you Harry for your good work. Rex, you sound like a homosexual, you got that uber Alpha male thang goin on. Guest Book | Sign Guest Book | Send Private Condolences As a child he was abused by alot of them.ridiculed..cut down. I do not see that you wrote of this in your comments. The town cannot seem to catch a break it seems. Especially when the truth of his death is available with easy and proper research. The man who told me this said they all had the backbone of a jellyfish and nobody in town had the guts to have a gun duel with McElroy. Hi Im looking into this case as part of my Extended Project Qualification and would like to know whether or not you believe that McElroys murder was justifiable? Sorry, Ive never heard that name. He had no respect for the law or those who enforced it. Surfacing briefly from her hiding place where she had sought refuge for herself and her children, Mrs. McElroy granted an interview to talk about the Kenneth Rex McElroy murder in Skidmore, MO. I keep going back to the though of if he knew it was the end for him. But there was. Whether the people that shot him are cowards or NOT, they simply did what the SYSTEM would NOT DO. ALL cowards that rape children, burn peoples homes, shoot close range into unarmed peoples stomach & shoot hard working elderly frail innocent people deserve a shot in the back of their heads. It was pretty gruesome. Yea he stole hogs, but no ones perfect. 3. A few years after the book came out, I encountered Del one evening in a bar in nearby Maryville. I have a great affection for the place, have from the first day I walked into the coffee shop almost 25 years ago. How old are you, 12? I walked over to the old d and g, and was going to look in through the window, but thought i had better not push my luck. They get away with crimes so much they begin to think they are INVINCIBLE. There has been no prosecution in the death of Ken Rex McElroy. Ken Rex McElroy, 47, was a big, burly man with bushy sideburns, cold eyes and an ever-present gun. Ken Tex McElroy had it coming. Thanks for writing. it just is.. it was Justice. Interesting. I dont agree with calling him a coward, at least not for the shooting. thanks-nicole. i dont know ? 2. Well, Skidmore was fed up. I will obviously drive through the town, and more than likely take some pictures along the way, and of course stop by the bar, if it is open. Life forced us to leave the area for a time and we totally lost contact with the family. Being located in the Northwest corner of Missouri, they are just a short drive to Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas jurisdictions. The law had utterly failed to protect Skidmore or the surrounding communities. i was there as was my father. I had NO idea he was related and he had grown up in California, so he didnt really talk about his moms family. In Broad Daylight is the name of the book, and there is a follow up called The Story Behind In Broad Daylight. I am loyal to the town. If it was spontaneous there would have been at least one person who wouldnt have known to keep their mouth shut. a town so fed up with what was going on that it finally took justice,if thats what you want to call it-into their own hands & then all involved took a vow of silence. Hi Harry I loved reading the book I have a question I know there was a made for TV movie made, have you been approached on making a newer version of a movie? She was getting a teaching degree and came from a very well liked, respectable family in our community. That was what infuriated the townspeople. I remember Ken well. Mr. MaClean, excellent book!!! Anyways, it says this guy shot a 70yo inthe neck? Thanks for writing. The irony of this entire story is too rich to ignore. Personally, I can see how Ken Rex may be regarded as somewhat of an anti-hero, not unlike Dillinger or the James Gang. Unfortunately the town does seem to be a long downhill slide, with people leaving and places closing. I got a copy of one of the pictures taken during the autopsy, but chose not to use it. He and his brother owned the D & G Tavern, in front of which McElroy was parked when he died and which had recently begun closing whenever he came to town. Ken Rex McElroy (June 1, 1934 - July 10, 1981) was an American criminal and convicted attempted murderer who resided in Skidmore, Missouri, United States.He was known as "the town bully", and his unsolved killing became the focus of international attention. As the old proverb says; Desperate times call for desperate measures.. I am planning a trip back to the area for some hunting next month and I will make the drive through Skidmore just to see how things have changed. If an eyewitness had turned in the killers in, it would have been a spectacular trial, likely ending in an acquittal. Rest in Peace Ken Rex, you were all good in my book! I just came across a brief posting about him on Facebook and true crime always fascinates me. You can also find the movie by the same name on You Tube. Sad but true. How many rounds were fired in total? Ken was the coward & the bully. I can assure you Skidmore has moved on. Do you have any sense how the town might have fared had they done the right thing? 60 Minutes - Bully - Ken McElroy & Skidmore Missouri (1982)Ken Rex McElroy (June 1, 1934 - July 10, 1981) was a resident of Skidmore, Missouri, United States. I would say that the shotgun was the first thing fired then shots rang from the other 2 guns, one being fired instantly after the shotgun blast which took out the window. Two questions have occurred to me.The first, being that there may have been three shooters, but only one fatal shot. Ken McElroy was a functional illiterate. I have watched the show about it and each time I have seen it, I myself have been frustrated at the situation and I didnt even live there. Do you believe that Baird agreed to allow you access tot he files because he already knew they were gone? My house on Safari Drive backed up to the cemetery where McElroy is now buried. They were the nicest people and in no way reflected their father. Del did not die the way you described. It was David Henry, Romaines son. After selling his farm, he worked at Energizer in Maryville, MO, for several years. Let this stand as a testament of human nature and what people are capable of when deep-rooted survival instincts are aroused by fear, oppression, and the feelings of hopelessness. Dont kid yourselfthere are no tough guys left after one minute in hell. I can promise you youd not roll over me. On another note, as to shooting him in the back and attaching the coward label. Either on his person or in the vehicle? 3. This is such an intriguing story. In a few weeks we will have a new POD paperback which will contain both In Broad Daylight and The Story Behind In Broad Daylight. Its in the book In Broad Daylight, toward the end. What McElroy would say about his portrayal in the book is another subject, and one which I would hesitate to hazard a guess on. I have been, at least twice a year. AND INTO ADULTHOOD. walked around the back of the old grocery, then looked at the buildings and grocery, out front. Defense lawyer. My grandfather rarely left his farm farther than 20 or 30 miles. I should have stated that years ago I was introduced to one of the alleged gunmen. Someday he would get even. ZZ. To get these girls out of here trouble was getting ready to happen. I do not see it that way. Rod Rex, You sure are full of your 68 350 pounds of muscle. Are there any other in print material available that you would recommend? Then is was simply hauled off by a wrecker and taken to the insurance company. this town shut its mouth , nobody talked & nobody will , i know del clement is the one who supposedly fired the fatal shot but no one really knows. In 2002 I convinced him to take a road trip with me for the day and headed to Skidmore. Thanks for the great book and your comments. measure .321 in diameter; bullets for the 8 mm measure .323 in diameter. Id like to get the reaction of other readers. I read they found .22 magnum and 8 mm Mauser casings in the street. No one saw a thing is a piece of junk. I had law officers tell me that the word was out among the cops that if you found McELroy out on the roads at night along and with a gun you should shoot him. Yes some little crazy some very good folk. I would be very interested to find out your source of information. The locals had a lot of fun with the Playboy author, feeding him all sorts of bullshit, then seeing him run it down or put it in his article. Since neither did their jobs, well, this is what happens. If it were a person Im sure it would wonder what it had done to bring all this grief down on its head. As for myself, and this lends itself to my statement about the passage of time and how it can cleanse some of the more untoward facts in the drama, Ive always cheered for the bad guy wrestlers. It was on the west side of the road. as for the earlier post of the person defending McElroy being a bully , why dont you bring your tough guy act to skidmore , before you do Id suggest that you pick out a nice plot & make sure your life insurance is up to date . the people of skidmore mo murdered ken rex mcelroy-plain & simple. I hope you feel superior. Although the trip is for a weekend of bird hunting, it will be interesting to see how things how changed, and yet remained the same. But the system did not work, and throughout history when that happens, when it gets BAD enough, people will act. I also was attempting to use Google Earth to observe the former Ken Rex house. When we went on the N.W.O. I think youd do it justice. Check out Sheriff Brady Pamplin and his son Brady Pamplin Jr. who became Sheriff as well. Well then grow a pair and do something about it. Who was the the second alleged shooter? I remember him saying he didnt want to talk to you anymore and you would quiteasking questions. Slowly twords It seems more sensational in a Rural Setting. the gun could be in a glass case with lights downing on it . c) McElroy became verbally and physically abusive, so she took their son and moved to live with her mother and stepfather a town over from Skidmore. If anyone know where Trena is, I would love to know. (Lets just say me and my sisters definitely dont blend in with the locals). I find it fascinating. Some guys were playing cards at a table. Pausing to milk it a little too long. This guy needs Jesus. .. I truly believe that any community put under the sort of pressure McElroy put it under, and with the law failing to protect it, might well have done the same thing. One of these women was 24-year-old. BB. Shooting an innocent elderly unarmed man is cowardice. . It is a FARM by the way. The gas station across from Sumys a rat infested mess. Wow, thats a lot of questions. There is also a bit of the Stockholm Syndrome, where the captive begins to identify with captor, liked Patty Hearst. Thanks for your thoughts. I search the internet and couldnt find a link to them. spur of the moment that got completely out of hand . I loved those kiddos very much and taught there for a few years before stopping to raise my family. I watched the TV Movie In Broad Daylight, Iast night. Over the years I spent there researching In Broad Daylight I never heard another name seriously mentioned as the rifleman. Not to mention that Del was of average height. Trena McCloudMcElroy's last wifewas only 14 when she became pregnant with his child and dropped out of school in the ninth grade. In my view, the story is a story that will stand in the annals of crime in America, whether I wrote it or someone else did. Screw the law and the rest of you people who have no back bone to do anything about it. I spent years in Skidmore. Obviously a rifle. Too bad. As to Kens last moments. in July 1981. a man who left a legacy of terror & hatred. I wont speculate as to who it was you met. it was truly scary , I seen McElroy back in early 81 . . the townspeople like much of the US actually believed in the law and kept hoping it would do its job. I know there were plans to combine school districts, but Im not sure if that;s happened. He was also preceded by his sister, Ronda Salsbury; son in law, Carey Barr; grandson, Rob Lowrance; and sister in law, Barb Dowling. He was a Korean war vet. She had our food ready to go They should be strung up for the way they did it. Has anyone ever actually physically tried to fight mcelroy? You can check them out at harrymaclean.com. It seemed as if an entire town was held hostage by a lunatic. the dirty little coward who shot Mr. Howard) as opposed to the denotation; a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc. I dont believe my grandfather would have and thats why it bothered him so much. I would love to find someone in the area who would describe this drunken short man routine you speak of. harry maclean has written a story that will endure , a story of a small northwest missouri town who took care of one of its own since the law didnt seem to care, a bully who terrorized this small town without repracussion , he got away with whatever he wanted. He was a man with a black soul and got exactly what he deserved. I knew he was gone from work the same day as Kens funeral but didnt put anything together. Whats a drunken short man routine? He was friendly and gave me directions to the cemetery. Dying of sclerosis of the liver is a slow process; it allows the person time to reflect on his life, to prepare to meet his maker. I have seen similar areas in my youth. McElroy was hit by a car in the middle of the day while driving his vehicle McElroy was riding his big vehicle with his spouse, Trena, the day he died. There are more facts, but Id have to dig into my research for them. So the debris pile falls at the 2 mile point. I also believe that the residents of Skidmore simply got tired of the legal system trying and failing to deal with Ken Rex McElroy. It is very obvious the whole thing was planned. The man Im thinking of, one time, was merely asked by the Los Angeles Police to move his double parked 18 wheeler. If the guns were ever matched to the participants would the 22 owner be the only one charged with murder? speculation will never be useful or needed. McElroy was a brutal bully who kept a town terrified for years. Sheriff Estes certainly would have had a reason to dispose of them, wouldnt he? He was of the Christian faith and had attended the Skidmore Methodist Church.. Gary married Marilyn Lou Friend in 1959, they later divorced. On Del, Ive discussed the notion that he might have been a coward because he shot Ken in the back. Sorry, Ive never been a defense lawyer, and my bio does not indicate otherwise. Ive heard and seen trailers of Without Mercy, but have not seen it. Im sure his wife at one time loved him, although I understand she divorced him because of his uncontrollable drinking. Harry. Little more than a manipulative bully, who exploited weaknesses in our legal system. I, like many, I am not sorry for Ken Rex. And I wouldnt have said a word about who did it myself. They preceded him in death. Directed by Israeli filmmaker Avi Belkin, the docuseries explores the unsolved murder of Skidmore, Missouri resident and town bully Ken Rex McElroy, who was shot dead in broad daylight in the middle of the tiny community in 1981. That was July 9, 1981, and Trena claimed that just before the shots were fired she looked over her shoulder and saw a local cowboy pull a rifle from her pickup and take aim at Ken. I believe they had a little boy. Its hard to live with a secret , a sin like that. (May 1, 1939 June 9, 2014). Whether it was in the heat of the moment or putting him down like a mad dog, I cannot say. After Sally had had three kids, Ken kicks her out of the house. Anyone that has the courage to stand up to a bully and shoot him is no coward in my book. They probably had bad dreams over it and Ken Rex won because he still haunts them and the town of Skidmore. Someone who has passed on from this life. Without justice, people *will* resort to extra-legal violence to right wrongs and settle scores. Theres much speculation about where the files are, who took them, but speculation only. I first heard of this story in a special edition of People Magazine (True Crime Stories; 2005). Almost ghost-like in the downtown area. Ia dikenal sebagai "tukang rusuh kota". The gas station across from Sumys is falling down, the roof has caved in. Good Time Charlies is very clean and much nicer than I had expected. One problem solved, but obviously from the tremendous amount of crime in that county, not the ONLY problem. I am 68, 320 pounds of solid muscle and no fat. You sound like a pussy with little man syndrome. Really??? Who else would shoot a man in the back of the head as he sat in his truck? There will never be another story like this one. To all my haters: just be glad I dont live around you because Id be doin a helluva lot more then just parking outside your house! I am Ken McElroys granddaughter. I used to trade rides to NWMSU with one of McElroys relatives. Write a new book become current find similarities that parallel life but quit riding the wind out of this. Thus, the debris pile I see is on the south side of the road just before the second turn at the corner at mile 2, and then on the west side of that same road after it turns southbound. McElroy should have been taken care of by law enforcement officers and the courts. I dont think it was planned beyond a few moments before it took place. the only hope that we can ever find out who fired the fatal shot is the last person alive who took the oath , as they die one by one , it will be the last person will they make a deathbed confession , will they knowing that their the last will they let the name be known thats the only way it will ever come out. Del and my grandpa has hauled cattle together. Although I do understand why some of the locals wish it would just go away. I was a witness , not a shooter . Would love to see the picture you have. ive had nightmares ever since that day off & on . Please let me know what you think of the new version. and yes he kept harassing the clements and you are right. Sorry pal, Im one of those 6 180 pound guys you claim youd palm. This year being the 40th anniversary of the killing, brought it back into focus for me. What do you think, people? vigilante justice, call it what you want.MURDER IS MURDER. What if these also failed me? Things got repeated and repeated until he became almost larger than life. Is there a part of you which may sympathize with the certain aspect in his personality which suggests that, at his core, he felt inferior to land-owning farmers? My first teaching job ended up being in Skidmore. The irony of course is that the way they got it back was to take a mans life. You see, there are the kind of bullies that go away once confronted, then there are others like us that come back and that scares the bejesus out of you. Was wondering if youll ever do a follow up to your book? The obituary mentioned that he had lived in Skidmore, MO, but nothing at all about the event for which we are reading this material. Theres a big difference between a .22 and a .22 mag. I dont think Del knew he was actually going to shoot McElroy until an instant before he reached inside the truck and grabbed his rifle. Is it possible you will be doing an updated story, anytime soon? When I talked with Trena, she was no longer defending McElroy. When the Social Contract is broken, the people must revolt. Rousseau. I know how people get frustrated and i realize how this happened with mcelroy! I was 13 when my father myself and my two sisters. I really have no quarrel with what happened to McELroy. Trena sad she saw him clear as day, what more do you need? This was verified. When you keep pushing people around, eventually they get fed up. Actually, I think Del Clements act was totally impulsive. I took a deep breath and said he wasnt my uncle and I had never known him. The photo was too graphic, in my mind, for a book. Harry, what is your opinion on what happened to the killing files in the Sheriffs office? I think David Baird believed that the sheriff had the files when he offered to open them to me. Or is it possible, that was merely a shell game, and they had no intentions of showing them to you from the start? Although I have my own personal opinions on this, I really did not want to cause anyone trouble. Using your description and Harrys, I do see a pile of former house debris just almost as you reach that second curve where the road turns south again. Im back and have a few pictues that I will post to my site once I have gone through them all. In closing here, I have to say that of all I read, I could easily visualize the McElroy Clan. I visited Skidmore in 2014. Del and his brother Greg also owned the only tavern in town, the D and G, for Del and Greg, and McElroy was famous for driving away customers. Is hostile.. Cruel people . Never saw anyone over 64. Again, awesome book!! The bullet must have been mis-identified as an 8 mm bullet; just 2 thousands of an inch different. The women in own tended to be a little kinder to her. People such as yourself who threaten other people over the Internet also tend to be cowards. Thx for keeping us updated http://www.michaeljoiner.com. I have heard about this case since I was a little girl and remember it on the news but at that time I didnt pay any attention to it. I would rather have a bio that reads defense attorney than town drunk , One can be both a defense attorney as well as the town drunk.
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