We did everything by hand. Notice one of his other auctions depicts a steel de-stroked . The quest for an edge for those with mega deep pockets had gotten out of hand, spending with ridiculous amounts for composite engine parts like rods, valves, pushrods, and titanium valve springs, which now are also illegal and dangerous. head gurus that could maybe answer for me. Even when his nurse believed he wasnt going to make it long into today, he once again defied the odds. Rest in peace Bob Glidden. You can reach Blair's at (323) 681-8644 . The decision to purchase should be based solely on the buyers personal inspection of the lot at the auction site prior to the auction. Debuting at a points meet on July 8, 1978, . 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The expense to run a Pro Stock car is unbelievable. Valve springs back then, and even later, were a travesty. It's neat to see he once raced an FE. For a 339, the car had to be 2,475 lbs. Glidden, of Whiteland, Indiana, was one of the most prolific builders and drivers the sport of drag racing has ever seen. Ford racing icon and 10-time NHRA Pro Stock champion Bob Glidden passed away December 17 at the age of 73. Falcon67. I don't know if this is true or measurable of an old wives tail. Only a few dragstrips hosted a local level Pro Stock program and logistically, I was in decent shape. BG] It's hard to get young people into building cars because the engines are totally diferent [from a stock car]. "Not one single warning," Glidden recalled. They kind of had a rule for me and then a rule for everyone else. The Boss 429 was also the engine that Ohio George Montgomery fit with twin turbocharges and reportedly made more than 1,000 hp. BG] My favorite car of all time was the 1987 Thunderbird. Everyone in the NHRA community is saddened to learn the news of Bobs passing, said NHRA President Peter Clifford said in a statement. See all 8 photos Glidden improved his engine building and race craft and that helped . Home of world class custom built blueprint engines for street, racing, and pleasure. And so it goes, the constant Pro Stock quandary. BG] I didn't know I'd be runner-up. Andrew has been involved in motorsports from a very young age. By Andrew Wolf December 17, 2017. They had pictures of him assembling his engines standing on their end. After bracket racing with acceptable accomplishments, my quest in 1975 was to run heads-up Pro Stock. I found an article on Mr. Glidden's Arrow from Sep 79 Popular Hot Rodding. On the port floor about 3/4" in from int. by BRENT FAY Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:24 pm, Post The Dana rear had a 35 spline spool (No more Detroit Lockers). One of my first writing heroes was Robert Benchley and his first book I read was when I was a freshman at LaSalle Peru (IL) High School in 1954. Rings were top: .043 moly, second ring 1/16 ductile and 1/8 low tension oil ring. Production of the Boss 429 Mustang began in 1968 at Kar Krafts assembly plant in Brighton, Michigan. That same September, I bought a running UDRA/Chicago Pinto Pro Stock with a Gapp and Roush 366 Cleveland and Lenco. Dealer Locator. And Chrysler came along and ofered me, it wasn't much money, but it was a lot more than nothing, plus all of the parts I needed. They both work very hard from the shop to the racetrack. Check out Februarys shop tips and tricks. My transition in 1975 from bracket racing a 122 wheelbase mid-eleven second, two-ton '57 Mercury to racing in a low nine-second 99 wheelbase, Pinto Pro Stock car, was quite a jump. Boss 351 CI Cleveland V-8 engine Finished in Stars and Stripes Red, White and Blue livery by Bob Allen Rigid chromoly tub frame Roll cage Glidden-modified oiling system, pistons, rods, crank, valve train, heads, fuel, ignition system and manifold Hooker headers Fiberglass dashboard Dash-mounted Moroso tachometer Simpson safety belts In fact, Glidden admitted the chassis in the Fairmont was nearly a knock-off of the one he ran cloaked with a Pinto body in 1976 and 1977. When Bob Glidden was inducted as number four on the NHRA's Top 50 Drivers list, panelist Bob Frey said of Glidden's talent, "There never was, and probably never will be, a more dominant driver in our sport." On Sunday, December 17, Glidden died at age 73 . Injection was supposed to bring Pro Stock closer to a production vehicle example, although the mandated injection used on NHRA Pro Stocks is not even close to what a production automobile uses today. Credit for pics goes to Petersen Museum, all pics found on the net. Glidden again showed his Pro Stock prowess, winning his record 10th and final championship in 1989. The video has myself asking Bob questions, and him answering them. He quickly went to work on a program that was based on the Boss 429 block since it was impossible to bore his faithful 351 Cleveland to 500 inches. It would take three days and nights, nearly round the clock to make one. In February of 1997, just two races into the season, Glidden retired citing inadequate sponsorship. MESSAGES. A career so full of hard work, miraculous wins, and pain-ful controversy deserves to be celebrated, so we took on the legendarily private Bob Glidden and tried to get him to spill some secrets. HRM] Did you grow up in a car family? Bob 's car was sleek and very trick using all the tricks of the day. Mickey Thompson phased them into his Mustang Funny Cars, and the Boss 429 is the engine that he experimented with his compressed-air supercharger. Glidden had a handle on the longer-wheelbase Thunderbird, and the 500-inch Shotgun engine and that allowed him dominate the 1985 season. Glidden drove the aforementioned big-block Fairlane in NHRA Division 3 Stock and Super Stock competition, but switched to a 428 Cobra Jet Mustang in 1968. Ford hadnt offered Glidden any factory backing in his years prior. The next 4 races were, Sanair Super Speedway,(8/6/78), Indianapolis Raceway Park, The Coveted US Nationals, (9/4/78), Pacific Raceways (9/24/78), and The World Finals, at Ontario Motor Speedway( 10/8/1978). Along the way there have been myriad rule changes. Glidden, who amassed a record 16,035 points and lowered the national record to 8.59, fielded two winning cars that year: The first was his tried-and-true Ford Pinto that carried him to victories at the season-opening Winternationals and Cajun Nationals, and the second was his famed Ford Fairmont, with which he won the Summernationals and finished He's as competitive today as he's ever been. rules: "These engines are vastly overlooked. Rod bearings were chamfered with pin hole and extra clearance, netting .0035. Community for the 351 Cleveland Ford engine enthusiasts world wide. And in 1988 he won five of the last seven races en route to his fourth straight title. "When we started hiring outside people, it was really our downfall," admits Glidden. Previous post breaks it down. So I'd like to understand why he would run a de-stroked small block? He led the chase from start to finish, winning five national events and securing his sixth Pro Stock championship. I could win, as I remember it, was if Lee went out second round, and we won the race and set one end of the record [mph or e.t.]. The bump in the floor of the port is a form of vortex generator it will increase the flow of a port with a poor short side shape i have never seen an advantage in flow when trying to make vortex generators in a proper port desighn with a much straighter aproach to the valve .im not sure if theres any advantages to fuel seperation . In 1968 he changed to a 428 Cobra Jet Mustang. Glidden improved his engine building and race craft and that helped him achieve strength in throughout the 1970s. Drag Racing Engines "Intimidator" Series . BG] In the late 1970s I was not fnancially involved with Ford, period. We had miracles happen for us to win cham-pionships and different races. My Pinto with a Cleveland, thanks to Gapp and Roush, Dyno Don Nicolson and Bob Glidden, was the highest factor - 7.3x the cubic inch. We worked hard at it and we had a lot of good luck. In the end, only the combination of all factors will yield the answer to the question of bearings. Glidden retired from full-time racing in 1997 to help with Ford's NASCAR engine development. I leaned early that exhibition promoters watch who brought the fans to their feet. We ran the bigger enginefor a few years and then just ended up running the 500-incher. Bob drove Fords almost exclusively throughout his career, at times carrying the banner virtually on his own. by joe Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:01 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, General engine tech -- Drag Racing to Circle Track, I had read a comment I beleave it was Bill Jones in a post about wleding cylinder heads and made mention that there was gold in the ports of Bob Gliddens cyl. After the Worlds Finals, I had to make a decision [to race full time], so I quit Ed Martin Ford and I bought equipment on timeyou know, I made paymentsand I started my own shop and that's how we continued on in Pro Stock. He raced a Fairlane, and Mustangs, in super stock, my favorite is his 68 Cobra Jet Mustang. Here are my 3 off the top of my head -. He was a true competitor who left a lasting legacy of excellence both on and off the track. It shared. My 339 and 342 cubic inch Clevelands got close to 12,000 RPM. Maybe not for everyone else, but it did for me., It's Saturday, very little racing to do, so we've opened up our collection of old drag races - the 1978 NHRA World Finals from Ontario, Ca. As flat tappet lobes frequently began to flatten, and springs were breaking, most Pro Stock racers finally went to roller cams. But maximum horsepower was still the main ingredient. Unfortunately for the competition, Glidden learned more with each run regardless of the combination. BG] Well, we thought they were all very fortunate. He chased Chevy Camaro driver Lee Shepherd for the 1980 Winston title all season, barely eclipsing Shepherd to claim his fifth overall and third straight championship. To get an edge some of us even tried pistons in the small blocks with only two ring slots. Carbon on Estamino was late to mature. Community for the 351 Cleveland Ford engine enthusiasts world wide. A self-taught mechanic, Glidden grew up in Whiteland, Indiana. HRM] Did you prefer one engine over another? One popular hybrid tomato is the Big Beef variety, known for its productivity, disease tolerance, and adaptability. At the time I had no access to a flow bench. Now here comes the question for you cyl. Even today, only John Force (134) and Warren Johnson (97) have more event wins, and no Pro Stock driver has yet to claim more cham-pionships (Glidden won 10, including five in a row from 19851989). but because I was the only Ford and everyone else was GM, they [NHRA] really changed the rules, with the big-block engine and knowing that we didn't really have an engine to be com-petitive with. Gildan Bob Glidden NHRA Fan Apparel and Souvenirs, Vintage Drag Racing Souvenir, Not Authenticated NHRA Original Autographed Items, John Force NHRA Original Autographed Items, Its not so much the connecting rod length that matters as much as it is the correct piston pin height. BG] Nope, no. Bob Glidden ran a 9.03-second run at 152.54 mph, which was top speed in qualifying and of the Pro Stock field. In this blog p. Tomato Varieties: From Determinate to Indeterminate & Dark to Yellow Research Your Options Before Planting! HRM] Are there any racers you think are underrated? Frank I. ran those a few times ,But the Boss was best. Gliddens accomplishments didnt end at the 1,320 either, he is listed 4th on NHRA Top 50 drivers (1951-2000), he was inducted into the International Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2005 and he received an induction to the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America in 1994. The cars were transported there from Fords Rouge plant to be fit with the engines on a small-scale assembly line. During the height of nitrous accusations in the mid- 1990s, Glidden pointed out to the NHRA how easy it would be to hide the power-adder, dem-onstrated on his son Rusty's Pro Stock car, which had qualified for a race and been through tech inspection. Within five runs at a private tire test, Glidden bettered the world record with the Mopar, a record the Fairmont held. See inside the Ford 351 Cleveland he raced, check out his shop inside, I narrated it to give more insight, and detail on things you might know, if it was not pointed out. HRM] Do you consider yourself primarily a driver, an engine builder, or a tuner? Glidden won three more titles in the 1970s before relinquishing his stranglehold on the class to Lee Shepherd briefly in the early 80s. Glidden retired after just two events in the 1997 season. Glidden's penchant for secrecy, notable even in the notoriously tight-lipped Pro Stock class, meant his innovations remained his own, but it also led to rumors and suspicions amongst his com-petitors. While he briefly drove a Chevrolet and Plymouth, Ford fans consider him the ultimate Blue Oval driver. by maxracesoftware Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:13 pm, Post If it's warm enough, I play golf. The car featured a chassis with quite a few similarities to todays current design. Related Articles What Goes Into Steve. So as soon as I got out of Delivery: Estimated between Fri, May 5 and Mon, May 8 to 23917. . My Pinto with a Cleveland, thanks to Gapp and Roush, Dyno Don Nicolson and Bob Glidden, was the highest factor 7.3x the cubic inch. by Guest Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:44 pm, Post That's a cutthroat business. Over the years, weve gotten asked numerous times about connecting rod length and the impact that has on an engines horsepower and durability. He started the season in his Ford Pinto, winning the Winternationals and Cajun Nationals. Boss 302 ought to qualify since the heads are more or less shared. The "Bob Rydey" 584; 582 Air Camando EFI; 618 "Super Air Commando" 632 "Air Enforcer" Pro Street Engines. From Fort Vancouver Yellow Pear to Santa Anna, these, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Bob Glidden's Undefeated 351C Powered Pro Stock Fairmont. Glidden claimed his first national win in 1973 at his hometown race, the coveted NHRA U.S. Nationals. This is my favorite Bob Glidden car. We will safeguard your e-mail and only send content you request. Glidden completed his career winning three events in 1990, one event in 1991, two events in 1992, and two events in 1993. This video is about the two week wonder, as Bob Glidden called it. After that year, Ford sent a person down to our shop to meet with me and we put together, at that point, still a small deal, but small deals were better than nothing, put that together with me to race Ford again. At the recent Houston event there were only 13 Pro Stocks. But they required even more spring pressure causing more spring breaking. That was all I wanted to do the Oswego/US 30 Pro Stock circuit. The timing was perfect because the end of the Fairmonts tenure was plagued with pencil whippings administered by the NHRAs tech department. We had a lot of good luck in that car. Glidden got his start while working as a line mechanic at Ed Martin Ford in Indiana before making racing his full time career. To keep the Mustangs livable on the street, the Boss 429 was configured to make a rather disappointing 375 hp, while the NASCAR race engine was thought to put out closer to 550 hp. Last year, I grew Fortamino but the seeds didnt do well at all. by Torquemonster Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:38 pm, Post By 1983, the small block Pro Stock era was over. HRM] Did you dislike it just because it was ugly, or was it an ill-handling car as well? The entire venture went away after we sold Bob Glidden several engines in the winter of 1984. Racing bearings are different from those recommended for street use, and theres a lot to consider. And he completed the season with five straight wins and his eighth Pro Stock championship. Bob Glidden remains third on the NHRA all-time win list. Darin maybe the RM crew might have seen this during tear down at the track back then? We went into that with NHRA's word that they would not change the weight breaks, but after the frst race, they did. This Hearse is definitely Haulin Ash and its our Engine of the Week! At what point after the car stopped ipping did you think of doing that? We got to the Finalsthat was still at the Ontario Motor Speedwayand the only way that It was just the way things went. Due to a change in the rules, which didnt suit his Ford, Glidden switched to a Plymouth Arrow for 1979. Takes the place of Clevor. BG] Back in the early days, none of us had a lot of fnancial support. But it has always made me wonder what it was about or was it a ploy or did maybe something else use to be in there. In 1986, Glidden had the worst crash of his racing career, flipping numerous times before sliding to a stop, his car reduced to little more than a cage and an engine. If Im not using torque plates, I tape up both sides and trim out the bores. Bob Glidden was forced to drop his winning Cleveland engine program in 1982 when NHRA mandated 500ci and start a new R&D effort with the Boss 429 platform. Even today, only John Force (134) and Warren Johnson (97) have more event. Glidden had seven national victories that season, tying Don The Snake Prudhomme. 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